Other Half-sibling Marriages

1911 joint marriage at Richmond Chapel, Breck Road, West Derby

Cecilia Maud PLIMMER to John ROBERTS, Mechanical Engineer, son of Robert ROBERTS, soldier
witnesses: Ernest C. L. PLIMMER and (Minnie?) L. BROWN

Edith Emily PLIMMER to Wilfred Byron JONES, shipping clerk, son of George JONES, domestic gardener
witnesses: Alfred E. JONES and Janet LUBE

1913 marriage at The Presbyterian Church, Everton Valley, Kirkdale, West Derby
The certificate also incorrectly lists the date as 1919, as well as 1913 in the date column

Ernest Cyril Lucas PLIMMER to Janet LUBE, typist, daughter of Frederick LUBE, lithographer
witnesses: Arthur SHAW and Agnes LUBE


No further records have been located for James William J. PLIMMER, his where abouts after 1901 remain a mystery.

GROGAN Link

1892 marriage at St John the Baptist, West Derby

Ada Ann PLIMMER to John Hesse GROGAN, postman, son of Thomas GROGAN, postman
witnesses: George WEBB and Mary WEBB

1893 birth of Percy Douglas GROGAN
1896 birth of Ada Marion GROGAN
1899 birth of Stanley Plimmer GROGAN

1899 death of Ada Ann GROGAN (nee PLIMMER)
1899 death of Stanley Plimmer GROGAN

1899 marriage of John Hesse GROGAN to Catherine TATHAM

1901

23 David Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
John H GROGAN 29 postman
Cath. GROGAN 33 milliner (own account)
Percy D. GROGAN 7
Ada M. GROGAN 5

1906 death of Ada Marion GROGAN
1910 death of Catherine GROGAN

1910 marriage of John H. GROGAN to Edith E. DENNETT
1916 marriage of Percy Douglas GROGAN to Elizabeth COFFEY

Grandfather PLIMMER's half-siblings

I know very little of this connection and I am unaware of any off-spring or decendants that are still alive. If anyone out there has a connection or information that will help me fill in the gaps, then please do not hesitate to make contact. If you wish the details to remain private, I will respect your wishes. Thank you!

His father's (James) first marriage took place in 1876 at St John's, Liverpool. His bride was Alice Margaret LUCAS, daughter of Jonathan LUCAS, builder. It is not easy to read the signatures of the witnesses:
?? (B?)UCKLEY
William ????LKES

The off-spring that followed:

1876 birth of a daughter Ada Ann PLIMMER
1878 birth of a daughter Cecilia Maud PLIMMER
1880 birth of a daughter Edith Emily PLIMMER

(1881 at Pringle Street, West Derby)

1882 birth of a daughter Beatrice Annie PLIMMER
1883 death of Beatrice Annie PLIMMER
1884 birth of a son Ernest Cyril Lucas PLIMMER
1885 birth of a son James William J. PLIMMER

1889 birth of a daughter Alice Margaret PLIMMER
1889 death of his wife Alice Margaret PLIMMER (nee LUCAS)
1889 death of Alice Margaret PLIMMER

1891

Ada Ann PLIMMER is a housemaid, servant at The Vicarage, Oakhill Park, West Derby

Edith Emily PLIMMER (as Emily PLIMMER) at 530 Prescot Road, West Derby, with her grandfather Jonathan LUCAS and (step-grandmother?) Catherine M. LUCAS and family

The other living off-spring are with James and his second wife Ellen PLIMMER (nee SWIFT)

1901

All living PLIMMER siblings from the first marriage are living with Catherine LUCAS, widow at 64 Sandstone Road, West Derby